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Walhalla, ND.

I’m wondering if this kink is the cause of the left side of my pumpkin to be smaller.
http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=296680

8/23/2018 5:30:03 PM

Minnesota(dw447@fastmail.fm)

Good question. Possibly, but how could you prove it? I've seen people post that a pollination problem could cause asymmetrical shape as well. Then again how do we prove it?

8/23/2018 6:10:52 PM

Central NY

I vote no...

8/23/2018 6:22:06 PM

Little-TON - Colorado

Cut half of stem off on a cull. Do one horizontal one vertical two different fruits.. Leave on plant and observe. It will cause it to go light to charts.

8/23/2018 7:27:25 PM

Central NY

Yer screwed hobbit...

8/23/2018 8:39:29 PM

Walhalla, ND.

I’ll settle for light. I’ll be happy to get this one and two more to the weigh offs in Minnesota come October. In AG time that’s a long way away yet.

8/23/2018 9:01:41 PM

Upa Creek, MO

I thought shape was similar to the lobe shape and imperfections or non-symmetrical lobes will show up in the pumpkin shape and really be amplified the bigger it gets. See below pic and zoom in, you can really see how the shape matches the lobes. Maybe one of the lobes was a bit recessed?

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=293929

8/23/2018 9:02:29 PM

Walhalla, ND.

Interesting smallmouth, I’ve checked all my photos and I don’t have a pic of this one at Pollination time. I’ll have to make it a point to take a pic of each one I pollinate in the future.

8/23/2018 9:14:22 PM

Upa Creek, MO

Check out this one from 2014, it had really deformed lobes. The right lobes were over the top of the left.

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=222229

8/23/2018 9:33:30 PM

Westmoreland, KS

i had a perfect 5 lobe pumpkin this year and it has a deformed right side

but then i had a 4 lobe with one slightly deformed lobe and that pumpkin is perfectly symmetrical

8/23/2018 10:19:21 PM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

I’ve read Wizzy’s reply over, and over, and over and I still don’t get it. Can someone explain what he means, or am I missing a joke somehow.

What do you mean Wizzy??

8/24/2018 12:07:22 AM

Walhalla, ND.

Same here North Shore, I’m glad I’m not alone. the only thing I understood was going light. The real hard part is leaving the culled ones on the plant. If she makes it to the end I’d still settle for light though.

8/24/2018 4:08:19 AM

Upa Creek, MO

I don't get it either, Glenn.

8/24/2018 8:24:28 AM

Georgia

I am not sure that I am buying the correlation between lobe symmetry and pumpkin symmetry. Is their any scientific date to back this up? That is like saying if your wife has uneven ovaries then your child is going be hunchbacked.

8/24/2018 10:17:40 AM

Little-TON - Colorado

Yes I do believe that kinks can cause fruit symmetry issues. I have caused them myself over the years. So as a test we can mess around with culls by slicing into the vine in different angles.....tests to prove or disprove the theory. We had fruit at a weigh off that had a severe kink in its MV, that fruit went way light, like a kinked water hose effects water pressure, so it makes sense to me.

8/24/2018 11:43:52 AM

Walhalla, ND.

Ok Wizzy, I understand better now. So if I intentionally grow one, let’s say on a side vine, then I intentionally put a kink in the stem. Let it grow awhile and see what happens?

8/24/2018 12:14:15 PM

New York

I don’t know if this helps but my pumpkin got a huge scar on the back left due to a animal around day 15. The whole back left area seems to be growing less than the rest even though the whole pumpkin is healthy

8/24/2018 6:04:56 PM

Walhalla, ND.

This is just a guess Ambomb, I think the scaring is tighter than the rest of the skin, therefore it won’t stretch and allow growth in that area. I’m still relatively new at this, but I see that with a couple of mine. I need to pay a lot closer attention to mine when there just babies. I’ve brushed dirt of mine when their very young and the traces compound itself as it grows. Or else Cindy in Little Rock spit on mine. I hear her spit is like battery acid. Lol

8/24/2018 6:22:38 PM

Upa Creek, MO

Abomb, Here's a Tarp burn on my 1059 Vincent McGill in 2011 early and later. The right side was dented in where it happened, and completely ruined the shape in the back.

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=163528

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=167672

8/24/2018 8:17:32 PM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

Thanks Wizzy.

8/25/2018 12:20:25 AM

Syracuse, NY

i had about a 245-pound cull-to-be on a 1007 Brown plant last year...forgot to cut fully through the other SIDE of the STEM and it kept growing, so when i went a-looking at my plant again a week later, it had grown quite a bit, with the side that was cut through ending-up being SMALLER throughout the remainder of the season. why would a section of the stem NOT correlate to a section of the PUMPKIN?

it'd be NEAT to grow a fruit with the TOP side of the STEM cut halfweigh through so that the BOTTOM of the fruit would grow, and barely the TOP...eg

8/25/2018 8:06:03 AM

Central Illinois

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/msgboard/ViewThread.asp?b=3&p=606442

8/25/2018 8:49:13 AM

Walhalla, ND.

Hmmm, that was an interesting read baitman. Thanks

8/25/2018 9:43:31 AM

Would there be a difference between a kink in the pumpkin stem and a kink in the vine ?
Would there not be a big difference between a kink in the vine as opposed to cutting the vine part way through ?

8/25/2018 9:52:57 AM

Syracuse, NY

in my honest opinion, i think cutting the VINE at all would be a 'global', all-encompassing (entire fruit) effect, whereas anything to do with the stem would affect a certain PART of the fruit---then again, maybe the connections (like a landline phone system) run further back into the PLANT than we might think...top of vine=top of fruit, bottom of...etc...eg

8/25/2018 10:35:21 AM

Walhalla, ND.

I’m not totally convinced that my miss shaped kin is caused from the stem. The kink started when the pkn was getting a lot bigger and I waited to long to pull the pkn forward. I’ve looked back at all my pics and the shape was already starting when it was very young and the stem had no issues. I have another pkn it’s high on the left side and stem is in perfect condition. I’ll post pics.

8/25/2018 11:55:49 AM

Walhalla, ND.

New pics posted of my other one with a hump on the left side and a pic of the stem. Also a pic of the 2004 in question when it was young.

8/25/2018 12:48:11 PM

New York

I found some rot on my stem and shaved it off it seems like the other side started growing more because of it. Now my pumpkin is lopsided but the growth never slowed. Maybye kinking it does the same thing.

8/26/2018 8:52:34 AM