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Subject: Natural conditions for highest cell division #
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| Little Ketchup |
Grittyville, WA
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Just curious if anyone has found anything interesting/useful on this topic. Everyone is probably gets very busy now but this might be one of the things that matters in the end.
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6/13/2018 3:45:43 PM
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| Little Ketchup |
Grittyville, WA
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I'm thinking hit mine with some concentrated tea for the amino acids during the cooler weather... but that is just speculation no real knowledge.
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6/13/2018 3:57:16 PM
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| pumpkinpal2 |
Syracuse, NY
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i see now you said 'natural', but still an interesting topic; maybe there'll be more about it in these discussions.
http://www.bigpumpkins.com/MsgBoard/ViewThread.asp?b=3&p=575535
also Google:
increasing cell division
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6/13/2018 8:44:38 PM
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| Sandkin |
Arizona
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Anthesis with Matt Debacco 's report. On Team Pumpkin website. Not sure if that's what your looking for?
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6/13/2018 8:56:53 PM
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| Moby Mike Pumpkins |
Wisconsin
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Read a good article on tomatoes where that vent the greenhouse at three different temps during cell division , and then all were run the same temps after cell divisin
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6/13/2018 10:00:37 PM
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| Moby Mike Pumpkins |
Wisconsin
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The coldest produced the most dense fruit the warmest produced the largest and least dense fruit, and the middle temps was inbetween the 2. What was surprising is there final weights all averaged the same.
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6/13/2018 10:00:53 PM
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| Little Ketchup |
Grittyville, WA
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Thats what I would figure... And its likely the same for pumpkins. Interesting though. Thanks.
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6/14/2018 2:37:22 AM
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| pumpkinpal2 |
Syracuse, NY
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so, with that thought in mind, has anyone ever HEATED a pumpkin to like 85-90 degrees F* in the final month or so? it helps with germination...perhaps a demanding fruit would command the plant's respect more than normal, like 'standing on' your gas pedal---eg
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6/14/2018 3:47:24 AM
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| pumpkinpal2 |
Syracuse, NY
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oops, i shoulda saved that idea, lol---
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6/14/2018 3:48:02 AM
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| Little Ketchup |
Grittyville, WA
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I think heating cables for the pumpkin is a very legitimate idea especially here where our nights are often around 50 degrees.
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6/14/2018 4:19:52 AM
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| Moby Mike Pumpkins |
Wisconsin
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I would be careful heating a pumpkin late season and cautious on covering it up tight. What happens when you throw unripe fruit in a bag with a little heat? It ripens quicker!
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6/14/2018 7:08:15 AM
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| Smallmouth |
Upa Creek, MO
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If heating pumpkins late season is a good idea, the WR should be coming out of Arizona each year. I think their current record is 486.
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6/14/2018 8:23:43 AM
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| baitman |
Central Illinois
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Heating blankets have been tried late season and I don't think anyone had positive results
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6/14/2018 8:57:27 AM
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| So.Cal.Grower |
Torrance, Ca.
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Good stuff here.
Luke is right and so would Spencer. Spence has had some good ones going, 95 to 100 degree days ended up shutting those fruit down not to gain again..
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6/14/2018 10:47:51 AM
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| Rick j. |
stoughton WI
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I've tried heating the pumpkin late season, not sure if it helped or not, but I believe you would have to heat the whole plant. If it was cold enough plant would shut down and not pushing anything to the fruit. Imho.
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6/14/2018 11:50:33 AM
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| Little Ketchup |
Grittyville, WA
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I think you are probably correct Rick.
I was not talking about heating it to make a pie out of it just keeping it at 60 or 65. I notice on mine the on-the-ground side can be noticeably thinner. We really do have cooler night time temps and cooler ground temps than other places that have grown world records!
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6/14/2018 12:55:59 PM
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| Little Ketchup |
Grittyville, WA
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Yeah...Watch out for heat and weather/temperature fluctuations that would stress your plants. If there is any chance of excessive heat...which is a risk everywhere this time of year... then don't do anything that would add to the problem. Keep those plants rolling keep them from shutting down. Interesting...!!!
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6/14/2018 1:28:57 PM
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| pumpkin carver |
Griffith, In
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If you gentlemen are talking about cell division, it is my understanding that cell division occurs in the first 20 to 25 days after pollination. After that, it is the case of getting those existing cells to just get larger. Heating and warmth in the late season is great to help fruit growth, but during this time to my understanding cell division is long passed.
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6/14/2018 1:50:11 PM
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| Little Ketchup |
Grittyville, WA
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Yeah we were off topic there. And I thought I heard once that it was 40 days for the vines to mature as far as cell division goes... Pumpkin encyclopedia needed... we could check wikipumpkin if our brain let us down. Thanks for info... It seems like with the right start the latter half of the growth curve would be smooth sailing, ideally. Its go time...
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6/14/2018 4:17:34 PM
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| pumpkinpal2 |
Syracuse, NY
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amongst all of this, i'm sure there must be a good combination of early cell division, season-long plant growth and pruning/prevention of splitting and such, and late-season, what-can-i-do-now tactics that will STILL be in the near future for all of us concerning this thread; i came in here to finish restoring my computer and it's getting dark out now! i must be addicted...eg
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