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Hadley Ny

My understanding is that most white seeds are from orange pumpkins. I've got a 2106 that I want to grow for BNO but wondering to wait a year and see what happens to others which doesn't make sense. It was grown next to two tan pumpkins. It could be anything. The seed is half white and half tan. Should I grow for orange or grow for bignugly and hope for orange? Makes a difference for patch placement. I'll be growing the bignugly miles away. Don't want them near my personal patch. Any open pollinations in my patch should be orange with great genetics. Neighbors are miles away.

4/20/2017 4:26:40 PM

Oak Grove, Mn

As i understand it..the 2106 was open pollinated. Statistics would suggest most of the seeds would be equivalent to a self pollination. But there could be a great difference genetically from seed to seed. I don't know if the color of seed is a good indication of the color of the pumpkin. In my multi-generation selfed line...the seeds have been by year order 2010 tan, 2012 white, 2015 white, 2016 bicolor. Every pumpkin from these seeds have gone orange. The deepest dark red pumpkin that I had from 2016 also had the darkest seed color. I think you have to grow it out..before you know what color the pumpkin is going to be.

4/20/2017 4:41:08 PM

Hadley Ny

The 2016 was open pollinated. I've got a great line of orange seeds and most are tan. My 500 from last year (very orange) were all white. I was thinking maybe late planting and late pollination made them white because they were basically immature but I got 100 percent germination. Thought somewhere down the line when I asked about white and tan seeds somebody said white is from orange. Lots of potential from the 2106..but up in the air about planting it this year. Will the same plant produce both orange and tan? I wouldn't think so but there are fraternal twins.

4/20/2017 5:03:41 PM

Hanson Ma

There was another pumpkin in that patch. I think there were three plant actually. So I wouldn't call it selfed. You might want to check and find out what was in the patch at time of pollination.

4/20/2017 5:08:31 PM

Oak Grove, Mn

I am not calling it selfed, but since the male flowers that are closest to the female on that plant would be ones that were of the same plant. So I am thinking a majority of the seeds would be equivalent to selfed since that is the shortest distance a bee would have to travel. The rest could be from a variety of other pumpkin plants. So every seed could have 1 of 4 different pollinators. Fortunately, what ever the cross was..it will be big. It will be interesting at the end of the season to determine what percentage goes both big and orange. There should be some.

4/20/2017 5:16:58 PM

Hadley Ny

Didn't call it selfed. Called it open pollination. It was grown next to two other pumpkins that where tan. All very large. Especially for a first year grower. Mike did an awesome job. His mentors pointed him in the right direction obviously. He just missed that hidden female but it took. Too bad it was open..but it is what it is.

4/20/2017 5:22:56 PM

Colorado

I talked with the beard about this.To the best of his recollection it was selfed but the flower hadn't been closed off cause it was a secondary vine fruit.The one he planned for on the main had funky lobes so he went with the secondary vine fruit.Not bad for growing on a side vine. So its open with a good chance of the seeds being selfed. I'm trying one cause we know the other one was crosses with non orange.

4/20/2017 5:54:25 PM

Hadley Ny

My original question was about seed color. My understanding white seeds only produce orange. I traded him for that seed and new all about it..his diary. Definetly open but was wondering if seed color is an indication of color?

4/20/2017 6:10:30 PM

Tinykinville

There has over the years been plenty of conversation of whether seed color or vine color or anything means pumpkins will be orange. The best indication is when young pumpkin is deep yellow to orange after its growing next best is the genetics of the parents and even then no promises in this sport just plant what you think is best and go with it and enjoy!

4/20/2017 6:45:54 PM

Wisconsin

Well to answer your original question, from my limited experience seed color has nothing to do with pumpkin color. 1385 was a brown seed, very orange pumpkins, 1670 was brown seed and very white pumpkin, 1965 was white and very light oragne and white. The 2106 seeds are very marginal seeds they didn't develop well,there was more than 400 that were deemed no good. Good luck and if were to guess the 2106 will throw orange and maybe more likely than its mother, but thats just my opinion. Good Luck

4/20/2017 6:51:34 PM

Hadley Ny

Thanks Mike, Most of my orange seeds are white or white tan and some are tan. I've got two 359's selfed from different growers. Ones white ones tan. I guess I'll find out. Will be filing and soaking in the morning.

4/20/2017 7:00:48 PM

Torrance, Ca.

All I know is you can't grow a 2000 pound pumpkin on a sidevine.
It just doesn't happen Mike.

4/20/2017 8:12:49 PM

Frankfort Ohio

Most of my seeds are White seeds ugly pumpkins and orange

4/20/2017 8:25:06 PM

Buffalo, MN (Billsbigpumpkins@hotmail.com)

Big T send me a pic of the 359 seeds and any packaging. The color of the seeds is no predictor of the color of the off spring.

4/20/2017 9:06:03 PM

Colorado

Seed color wont predict pumpkin color.

4/20/2017 10:05:30 PM

Deer Park WA

our 834☆ had snow white seeds and threw black green squash.

4/20/2017 11:50:39 PM

Deer Park WA

humm, that should have read 834 squash...

4/20/2017 11:51:34 PM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

Engel seeds aren't white. The 359 changed that. Results say seed color is not an indication of final color. Vine color is about 50/50.

4/21/2017 7:57:17 AM

Hadley Ny

Thanks for the info everybody. Filed and soaking as we speak. Will be planted in my personal patch and hope for Orange. Will first need to see if it germinates.

4/21/2017 8:30:09 AM

Home of happy lil plants

Plant the 2106


its going orange

4/21/2017 9:29:49 PM