General Discussion
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Subject: Who will be your next president?
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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Here in Germany, the question is: WHO is Donald Trump anyway? A ridiculous person with a ridiculous haircut getting him a guest role in an early 1980´s Dallas TV episode for sure.
Apart from this, a Nixon brother? A step-uncle of Bush Junior?
A man in need of Eastern European models to complete his way of life. A person that has no idea about the location of countries or cities outside the USA.
If Paris or Berlin, it´s all Cuba. Everything else is USA.
"I never had a problem with corruption, did this my whole life."
Everyone should think twice before electing next time. With this Donald Duck and his First Daisy Duck Lady, you will soon be isolated around the world. Money never pays off for the lack of gentle behaviour and decent knowledge.
No other intelligent person on the way instead?
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1/29/2016 10:23:04 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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Sorry, that was intended to pe posted on the non-pumpkin-related board.
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1/29/2016 10:35:31 AM
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| OLD-ROOKIE |
NILES , CALIF
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At least he is better than Angela Merkel She brought in over a million Issis, in your country,hows that worken out for you, they will take over.
Don't worry about Donald Trumps hair Atleast he is tryin to stop these Issis people from coming in and taken over.
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1/29/2016 11:50:37 AM
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| jlindley |
NE Arkansas
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Yeah you should worry about your country before you start bashing ours... he would be waaaaayyyy better than what we have...
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1/29/2016 11:59:05 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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Not much information from your side. You are not confrontated with refugees like in Europe. It takes more than Donald Trump to solve problems caused by the Bush administration with the wars that had always been nearer to Europe than to the USA. Please not another crazy US president.
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1/29/2016 1:46:36 PM
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| Josh Scherer |
Piqua, Ohio
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Did Amelio change his user name?
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1/29/2016 2:30:09 PM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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I have no idea what "Issis people" are. From the point in 2003 when a very intelligent president Bush decided to start war against Iraq, world changed. With no solution up to 2016 because since Bush, we now have the "IS" to deal with. Thank you.
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1/29/2016 3:00:48 PM
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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floh...your welcome,,,,side note,,,while it has been along time, to put Bush and the US on blast for a war against Iraq seems a tad bit tasteless given Germany's war inciting past... just a thought
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1/29/2016 3:15:04 PM
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| THE BORER |
Billerica,Massachusetts
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we'll send you Obama when he's done here
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1/29/2016 3:26:12 PM
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| Gads |
Deer Park WA
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You can have Hillary too after she looses to Trump.
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1/29/2016 3:43:58 PM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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cheddah, in 2003 I posted somewhere in this forum that the USA and allies would not be able to win the war in these countries since we have no connection or understanding for the people living there. We can destroy houses and kill some leaders but never show solutions for the people. So this is they all flea to Europe right now. Tell me how Donald does see things?
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1/29/2016 3:47:04 PM
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| Porkchop |
Central NY
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Fish -- he ain't that bad...
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1/29/2016 4:23:45 PM
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| Porkchop |
Central NY
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Presi...I mean candidate Donald trump (and gop frontrunner for all the haters)has stated that we need to do everything we can to help fix the situation we screwed up in that area.. (Not that it hasn't been screwed up for thousands of years)...do whatever we can to help to the refugee population.. Not by bringing them here though...we are not smart enough to figure out the good from the dangerous in this country... I'm sure they are working on ways to figure it out ...he's pretty good at keeping the books.. Has made billions of dollars...we are gonna let him and his cronies get us back in the red ..
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1/29/2016 4:31:08 PM
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| Team Z |
Germany
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Are you people taking Trump really for serious? In europe nobody is able to understand how a normal intelligent person could even consinder to vote for such a hate spreading person. He brings nothing but aggression and the only reason why people listen to him is because he adresses the fears of the population in a very primitve manner.
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1/29/2016 4:55:51 PM
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| Mike F. |
Hanson Ma
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Floh, When the Taliban decided to attack the US and murder 4000 innocent civilians thats where the change started. No other president has had to deal with an attack of that size on civilians. Bush may not have been the best president but he did something to say that wont happen like that again. And those that want are help still turn on us in the end.
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1/29/2016 4:59:50 PM
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| Smallmouth |
Upa Creek, MO
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The irony of Germans telling us about bad leaders. Perhaps you forget World War I and WWII? Also look at Merkel now, her open arm we will take anyone policy got 300+ women sexually assaulted in 1 night in Cologne. Trump is not my favorite by any means, but his policies would have protected your women.
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1/29/2016 5:11:41 PM
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| Team Z |
Germany
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We are telling you that because we have experience with bad leaders. Refugees are just like you and me. There are a few very good and a few very bad but the most are somewhere in between. I don`t like the decisions of Merkel too, because Germany is not able to take people all alone. But, when I should make Merkel responsible for what has happend in cologne, I could also make the U.S. responsible for it because of destabilizing the near east. World is not just black and white.. just sayin'..
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1/29/2016 5:35:49 PM
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| bnot |
Oak Grove, Mn
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I try to stay out of political discussions. The last candidate i would ever vote for is trump. My 11 year old daughter agrees. Discussion amongst her classmates..if trump would win...the whole middle school would be trying to convince their parents to move to Canada. You people that support Trump..get serious...listen to what he has to say...this is no tv show
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1/29/2016 6:19:52 PM
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| marley |
Massachusetts
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I have listened to everthing trump has to say. And that's the reason why I will vote for him! Its funny how people say his ideas suck,but now half of the candidates are preaching what trump says to their supporters. And I don't think a billionaire can be bought off by any special interest groups. Like every single politician in the last 50 years. This country has gone to crap with oversensitive americans, with illegal aliens,and letting foregion religions have their way with our country is just disgusting in my eyes. I'm thinking on moving to canada if trump don't get in!
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1/29/2016 7:19:21 PM
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| Mike F. |
Hanson Ma
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You know what. This thread has really pissed me off tonight. I am sick of every site I'm on having to have an off topic thread that gets political and pisses people off. This website and others that I'm on are for people to have fun meet some new people and learn about our favorite hobbies. and Then someone needs to get political and just blows up what ever fun and comoradery that may been being built. If you want to debate politics go find a website that does and have at it. You want to meet new people and trade info on giant pumpkins then stay and unite with other growers instead of driving a wedge.
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1/29/2016 7:20:16 PM
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| fisherray |
Western NY
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I have always thought that trump doesn't want to be president and that is why he is so outrageous but he has caught a wave of anger that obama and his ilk has brought to the surface in many people. I dont believe he will be president but the field is pretty slim in quality.
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1/29/2016 7:34:15 PM
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| Porkchop |
Central NY
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Ouch... He did apologize for posting on the wrong board...trump 2016...
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1/29/2016 7:36:00 PM
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| fisherray |
Western NY
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well I dont mind discussing it on here because most people on BP can have a decent discussion without getting personal and angry.
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1/29/2016 7:37:30 PM
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| Porkchop |
Central NY
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agreed
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1/29/2016 7:41:27 PM
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| bnot |
Oak Grove, Mn
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i say i tend to stay out of political discussions...the only reason i posted is because it seems are friends in germany were only being answered by pro-trump posters. Dont worry across the waters...there are many here that feel the same as i do.
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1/29/2016 7:44:16 PM
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| fisherray |
Western NY
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we have a congress to even things out no matter who is in office--- usually.
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1/29/2016 7:53:41 PM
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| Porkchop |
Central NY
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Yea floh, plenty of people here are convinced he's a douche...Not me though... I'm all in
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1/29/2016 8:11:21 PM
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| cavitysearch |
BC, Canada
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Josh- Yep. Amelio
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1/29/2016 8:49:50 PM
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| marley |
Massachusetts
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So true ray, congress will stop those crazy promises. Amelio for prez.
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1/29/2016 10:05:15 PM
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| Richard |
Minnesota
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Hi Amelio! Still growing? Bernie Sanders - he's for cannabis recreational legalization! Or trump, he's different from many of the stuff shirted politicians! Reminds me of Jessie Ventura!!
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1/30/2016 1:59:02 AM
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| Pumpking |
Germany
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It´s highly interesting to follow this thread, indeed. So many different opinions (and that´s what´s making life so interesting and exciting). Especially the opinion posted by fisherray ("most people on BP can have a decent discussion without getting personal and angry") is one of the points I really like (anyone who does not agree?).
Something that came to my mind this morning, just some simple questions, but perhaps important ones: What would you do if you had no idea about what a future president would actually do (no matter what he/she promises, because promises are nothing but promises), the only thing you know is their names...would you vote for someone called "Applepie" or would you be inclined to vote for someone called "King"? Also, how do enthusiastic speeches provide a foundation for any direct correlation with the person´s actual capabilities? ...as long as it´s all about speaking, then close to a 100%, of course. Everything else?...One never knows until the point when the other capabilities have to be brought in action. Also, who would be the best person or group of people to give decent advice (no matter what situation), someone who gives the advice you want to hear (because it´s basically your opinion) or someone who has some first hand experience because of mistakes made in similar situations?
No worries, you don´t need to answer those questions, they just came to my mind and I wanted to share them. Perhaps some of you already asked yourselves similar questions (or maybe not).
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1/30/2016 4:41:14 AM
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| Pumpking |
Germany
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...my questions can be translated right into pumpkin growers´ language:
- Would you want to grow a seed with a particular grower´s name on it (just because of the name, no matter what genetics) or would you be inclined to grow another seed (no-name, it might be better in genetics because of it´s relatively excellent history in a newbie´s patch...time will tell, because the "don´t know" risk applies to both kinds of seeds).
- Would you always prefer to listen to people who are talking about pumpkin growing, or would you prefer to listen to people who actually grow pumpkins (even though their speeches might appear less enthusiastic)?
- In a tricky situation (some disease issues) would you like to get advice from someone who basically tells you to continue to do what you already wanted to do (because this grower is doing the same and doesn´t have this disease issue) or would you listen to someone who tells you to stop doing what you started to do, because he/she did the same some years ago and found out that this probably caused some further problems?
It´s all about the same, it starts with a "P" and you need to make decisions and you don´t know what will happen before you try and see.
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1/30/2016 4:52:40 AM
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| it is what it is |
Streator ,Illinois
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I think you should vote early an often its the Chicago Way!! but truely is this the Best the Donkeys and the Elephants can muster to be the next President of the USA ! Sad very Sad
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1/30/2016 5:22:23 AM
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| Pumpking |
Germany
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it is what it is, it is what it is :-)
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1/30/2016 5:57:24 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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Concerning WWII, we all know from D-Day to the Nuremberg Trials it took a short time to free Europe from Nazi terror. From 2001, it´s more than 14 years now and we still have the Taliban and other terrorists and even worse, the IS. It took a couple of days to win the wars, but after all these years, nothing has changed and all what remained is chaos and terror. This is no good point in recent history at all. We need more political intelligence and less weapons, this is what a future president is for, no matter if in USA or Europe. The money of Donald Trump does not compensate for cheap agitation.
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1/30/2016 6:22:33 AM
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| TruckTech1471 |
South Bloomfield, Ohio
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While it is just a matter of time before yet another scandal brings a Clinton down, there is really only Bernie Sanders remaining on the left. I don't want my freedoms and hard-earned income given away to those who either refuse to work or are here illegally, so Republican it is. The only candidate I can really get behind is Dr. Ben Carson for his intelligence, team-building skills, moderation, devotion to faith, and refusal to enter the mud pit at the beck and call of the U.S. media. The media calls it "vetting", but I call it tabloid ratings-driven TV.
Carson's refusal to engage in cutthroat politics and send his message and proposals for curing what ails us forward instead had me from the very beginning and I will continue to support him until the last dog is dead.
Some Trump supporters tell me he hasn't a chance against the others but I know only this: He doesn't if someone doesn't if more citizens don't get behind him. Trump will get my vote only when Carson is ruled out because I like it that he funds his own campaign and verbalizes what we Americans are thinking without consequence and ignores the political correctness forced upon us by this administration and the rest of the liberal world.
I may be tolerant of differences between peoples of the world, but I'm not stupid or ignorant.
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1/30/2016 7:46:52 AM
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| Josh Scherer |
Piqua, Ohio
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Concerning WWII. We had a couple presidents with balls in the 1940's. Not like the spineless pansies we'very had lately.
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1/30/2016 7:58:36 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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Concerning Angela Merkel, I basically do not support the refugee politics, but please consider Germany still has the most reliable economy in Europe. This is why we can spend money for Greece being called Nazis from thankful Greeks...
@TruckTech1471: I will spend some time this weekend to research Dr. Ben Carson. I still hope Republicans have more to offer than Trump.
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1/30/2016 8:48:53 AM
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| Smallmouth |
Upa Creek, MO
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floh said: "Concerning WWII, we all know from D-Day to the Nuremberg Trials it took a short time to free Europe from Nazi terror"
It wasn't that simple, over 60 MILLION people died in WWII. I was fortunate enough to have both my grandpas come home or you all wouldn't have been fortunate enough to be blessed with my internet presence. IMO, part of the destabilization of the East were ramifications of WW2, but you can continue to blame the U.S for your problems now if that appeases you (from your 4th post). It's much more complex than that and not all "Bush's fault".
Like Trucktech, Trump will only get my vote if he is elected to represent the right. I personally like someone more down the middle like Marco Rubio, but would never vote for a Socialist like Sanders.
If Marley ever decides to run, I'm in!
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1/30/2016 9:17:51 AM
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| Bubba Presley |
Muddy Waters
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Bubba for President!!!! There will be a pumpkin on every porch. Medical care for Giant veggies!!LOL
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1/30/2016 10:45:31 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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USS Abraham Lincoln - Mission Accomplished speech (Iraq war) - by United States President George W. Bush on May 1, 2003.
This is what some persons are able to realize - or not, or whatever they do for the rest of the world, if it´s still the running gag of the century with bitter results for every soldier and other people involved.
Please we should not decide to repeat this part of recent history with disabled political leaders and look for better solutions instead.
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1/30/2016 10:54:18 AM
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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Heard they are printing Mein Kampf again hope this does not spark the 4th reich Please we should not decide to repeat this part of fairly recent history with disabled political leaders and look for better solutions instead If I were a German citizen living in Germany I would be more concerned with the current bum in office
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1/30/2016 11:03:41 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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"Heard they are printing Mein Kampf again hope this does not spark the 4th reich"
This how to perfectly turn the lack of knowledge into theories. It is a commented re-print for students and interested persons. I hope some day we will do this with the books of Mao, Stalin and others as well.
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1/30/2016 11:22:09 AM
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| Green Toe |
Ontario
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So whats wrong with his haircut ?
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1/30/2016 11:35:12 AM
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| Porkchop |
Central NY
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Lol... Flow is jealous of Daisy Duck ...when do we get to see her more?
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1/30/2016 11:53:23 AM
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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well "students and interested persons" kinda sounds all encompassing...I mean those that are not interested aren't going to read it...it is the "interested persons" that concern me,,,I'm not for censorship and people can read and say what they want,,,just a pretty slimy way to make a buck
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1/30/2016 1:13:13 PM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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cheddah, you can buy "Mein Kampf" in early prints from the 1930´s. It was given to couples for marriage during these years, if wanted or not. The re-print has critical comments and remarks from a scientific point of view. This book is intended for people to find information about the way Nazi dictatorship was established.
We should have more books like a critical interpretation of Koran and muslim history to be prepared for content-related discussion of facts and issues.
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1/30/2016 1:46:07 PM
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| North Shore Boyz |
Mill Bay, British Columbia
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Easy fellas, I just watched the Trump vs Trump debate from the Stephen Colbert show, dont know this dang iPad well enough to post the link, but well worth a Google search and watch the 8 minute clip.
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1/30/2016 2:53:25 PM
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| Jimbo01 |
Freedom Is Just Another Word For Noting Left To Lose
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I haven't seen the Colbert Report, but have been following the onion. Here's the link
http://www.theonion.com/
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1/30/2016 2:59:23 PM
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| North Shore Boyz |
Mill Bay, British Columbia
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http://youtu.be/MJfH9O0w1WY
That might work, either way the clip is on utube.
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1/30/2016 2:59:45 PM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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Hehe, the Colbert show is funny. Regarding Donal Dump, this reminds of a T-Shirt: http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/34/76/21/7595083/7/920x920.jpg
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1/30/2016 3:20:27 PM
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| So.Cal.Grower |
Torrance, Ca.
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My cover crop is killing it right now.
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1/30/2016 5:10:11 PM
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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haha,,,I needed that So.Cal,,,thank you
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1/30/2016 5:45:10 PM
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| GEOD |
North Smithfield, RI
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Donnie,s highchair was empty at the debate last night !
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1/30/2016 7:54:35 PM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
That justice includes us citizens. I believe that is what scares the biz as usual GOP/DEMs,and foreigners.Trump seems to focus on what is good for citizens. My opinion is that American elections are American Biz.
Rubio/Bush/Clinton/Sanders believe in citizenship for Illegals.
Give the illegals citizenship,and you give them the swing vote of every federal election in the future. 12 million illegals(Jeb Bush's number) 130million citizens voted last Federal election. Do the math. Rewarding illegals with the vote is beyond stupid. Provisional green cards,and an end to anchor baby scams.
It is sad that there are ONLY two Democratic candidates.
I have seen the ravages of these "free trade"deals.
Trump was speaking the other day,about the Keystone boondoggle deal,and how he was criticized for supporting it. (already a pipeline to Superior,Wisconsin since the 1940s) His response "Sure I support it.But I will get the USA 25%." That says it all!
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1/31/2016 12:42:59 AM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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Note:It has been EIGHT years since boondoggle Bush. Even Obama has had to stop blaming the middle east crap on Bush.
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1/31/2016 12:54:55 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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If Trump is that good in making money, give him the ministries of finance and economy. For political speech and foreign affairs, please choose another person being suitable for the job.
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1/31/2016 8:27:48 AM
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| WAIT TIL NEXT YEAR |
So. Maine
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The USA tax payer seems to have had Enough of Political types running our country and see Trump as a breath of Fresh Air !
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1/31/2016 8:59:41 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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The german tax payer community has 1500 $ every month for every refugee of silly wars around the world, "middle east crap" preferred. This is what we pay for international political madness over here.
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1/31/2016 9:38:51 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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Please keep in mind, without immigrants there would be no society in the USA of today. In Germany we have muslims for decades - and not ALL are criminally minded.
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1/31/2016 9:56:54 AM
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| Green Toe |
Ontario
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Isolated around the world? But who will the world call upon to help clean up the worlds messes like the US has been doing for the last 100 years?
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1/31/2016 10:36:44 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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"who will the world call upon to help clean up the worlds messes like the US has been doing for the last 100 years?"
And where is the world today with these spineless and senseless wars leading to terror, chaos, devastation and even more Taliban, IS and millions of refugees? What about civil and military losses? For the future of our children, we should think things over.
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1/31/2016 11:20:24 AM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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Did Germany have millions of "refugees" coming their way,when Bush was President?NO Was Syria in the middle of uncivil war,when Bush was President?NO Was Islamic State solidly entrenched in Iraq,when Bush was President?NO Were the Iraqi Sunni Muslims ignored by Bush,or by the Shia majority?NO Did Canada stay completely out of Iraq when Bush went into Iraq?NO Have countries like Canada and Germany,refuse any of the "spoils of after war"?NO Did Canada,Germany,ETC.,benefit from the government OF Saddam Hussein?YES
Do Germans know who Krupp company was? (pre 1950s)
Throw blood all you want. Just remember that blood is on hands,all over the world.
My immigrant grand parents came in the front door. LEGALLY. They became Americanized willingly!
Trump is in it to win it. And that includes bringing out everyone to vote. You will see the biggest turn out of voters in the U.S.A. ever!
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1/31/2016 11:39:26 AM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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Correction not ignored by Bush. Ignored by Shia.
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1/31/2016 11:41:25 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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MCPUMPKIN, the world has changed since Bush. You cant´t win a war if you don´t win the people living in these countries.
Not everyone does see the world the "American of life". In arab countries, democracy etc. is unknown. So what do you expect? We cannot import our point of view, and it´s not welcome at all if we try to force it.
In Syria we don´t even know who is fighting against whom. Please respect there is another world outside US and Europe that we have to deal with, but as more weapons speak, we have to think about what we can do instead.
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1/31/2016 2:08:50 PM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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The world,and America changed on September 11th,2001. Bush did not make that happen.Wahabbi's did.
If you come to America,and wish to be American,you had better get an American point of view. Otherwise you are just another parasite,living off of what our ancestors built. Aside from the crazies,most all Americans get along. Americans do not accept "our way or no way" of some.
We have been cleaning up others wars.(ww1-Europe,ww2Europe/Japan,Korea-Japan,Vietnam-France) Yes,we have our Krupps. Vietnam is proof of that.
America,like it of not,is a matrix of many cultures. Perhaps the "European" point of view refuses to see that.
In the South they call it mixing. Appalachia has had Syrians here since the late 1800s(Ran from the Islamic State point of view).
Good luck with the "hearts and minds mentality. It is hard to hug those who kill in the name of GOD.
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1/31/2016 2:54:25 PM
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| jlindley |
NE Arkansas
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marley Massachusetts
I have listened to everthing trump has to say. And that's the reason why I will vote for him! Its funny how people say his ideas suck,but now half of the candidates are preaching what trump says to their supporters. And I don't think a billionaire can be bought off by any special interest groups. Like every single politician in the last 50 years. This country has gone to crap with oversensitive americans, with illegal aliens,and letting foregion religions have their way with our country is just disgusting in my eyes. I'm thinking on moving to canada if trump don't get in!
Marley is right... Trump can't be bought by special interest groups... he also knows business and why businesses have moved away from america... that tax laws and things that caused it... laws that cause American businesses to keep money off shore... money that could be invested in America and American businesses...
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1/31/2016 3:01:30 PM
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| jlindley |
NE Arkansas
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https://youtu.be/LmWOOrwDUug watch this video about trump
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1/31/2016 3:02:38 PM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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"Otherwise you are just another parasite, living off of what our ancestors built."
Thank you. Your ancestors probably came from Europe? You don´t need to respond to me anymore.
"well I dont mind discussing it on here because most people on BP can have a decent discussion without getting personal and angry."
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1/31/2016 3:02:48 PM
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| Tad12 |
Seattle, WA
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floh,
I think it's easy for Americans to lose perspective as we are relatively isolated from the rest of the world compared to those living in Europe. To me, Trump is a scary candidate due to his aggressive nature and views on foreign policy. The thought of him controlling military decisions and being our voice with other world leaders doesn't bode well.
Personally, I see immigrants as human beings, nationalism aside. If we can provide humanitarian aide then that is more important to me personally than the fear-mongering I see going around with the Republican party. Besides 9/11, we really haven't had to deal with the level of terrorism that exists in the rest of the world. Every nation has a sordid past, I think it's up to the us to improve upon the violence and hatred that may have occurred in our history. In the United States, we have Vietnam and slavery and Japanese internment camps to account for. If anything, I feel like the Germans I've met have a better world view because of what they have learned from their nations history. My 2 cents...
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1/31/2016 3:06:36 PM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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What does a man's choice of woman have to do with Europe? The more people attack the AMERICAN Trump,the more people will getup and vote this November.
Communications,business,and disease,have gone global. But American nationalism has not. And America is not going to become what outsiders want.
That is why OUR Constitution says "WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES" Perhaps it,is THE main reason,people from all over the world,want to come here.
Most non Americans,that I have met personally,say that Americans,say they are American,no matter what their history. They say that is not common in the rest of the world.
HAIR,WOMEN,INSULTS,,,, Here in AMERICA we say,we do not care what the world thinks,when it comes to our politics.
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1/31/2016 3:08:38 PM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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"Your ancestors probably came from Europe?" so? One came from Canada.One perhaps was originally from old Israel.(spoke Yiddish/adopted) ALL EMBRACED being AMERICAN.
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1/31/2016 3:15:55 PM
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| Garden Rebel (Team Rebel Rousers) |
Lebanon, Oregon
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Margaret Thatcher is right about socialist governments: "They always run out of other peoples money" (Greece). Everyone is equal in his or her own misery. In a capitalist economy incentives are the most important thing. This drives economic behavior. The younger generation thrive on special favors. Promised "free this, free that". It is not free. I have to pay for it. I don't need the government telling me how to spend my money and what is best for me like they know better than I. Many Americans hate the government more than ever now. Mr. Trump is pointing out problems with this country and many can't stand it. Every time he opens his mouth it seems to make him stronger. What is this saying? He's not even trying. People are making Trump bumper stickers out of masking tape! This is becoming the pulse of the people for much of America. Will I put a Trump bumper sticker on my car? Not necessarily. Ted Cruz probably. The alternative will be much more destructive to this country in the long run.
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1/31/2016 3:23:22 PM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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Hi to Tad12 in Seattle, I really appreciate to read your comment in a spirit of serenity and mutual respect. This is what we need for the future.
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1/31/2016 3:25:47 PM
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| OLD-ROOKIE |
NILES , CALIF
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Im pretty sure Mr trump will surround himself with the right people to make military decisions.
Tad 12 if you don't like Trump, Who do you like?
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1/31/2016 3:29:25 PM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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"Im pretty sure Mr trump will surround himself with the right people to make military decisions."
Yep, he can reactivate Donald Rumsfeld. 2 Donalds are better than 1. Congrats.
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1/31/2016 3:45:04 PM
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| OLD-ROOKIE |
NILES , CALIF
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No Amelio, hopefully a Patton type of general so he can just March right in and take it !!
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1/31/2016 3:53:05 PM
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| jlindley |
NE Arkansas
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I think in November we will see a Trump/Carson ticket that will destroy the left...
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1/31/2016 4:05:13 PM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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General George S. Patton is a person you should not even dare to compare with military duties and responsibilities after 1945. This is what makes the difference.
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1/31/2016 4:09:35 PM
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| jlindley |
NE Arkansas
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For the guy who said Trump is a scary person... no he just doesn't play into the lefts politically correct bull... he does something that scares the heck out of the left... he actually speaks his mind... something the left wing baby killers don't want Americans doing! Yeah I take abortion personal... I bet you on the left have never had someone abort your child without you knowing... or better yet what about you on the left... how about if your parents would have aborted YOU? That's something to think about...
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1/31/2016 4:22:03 PM
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| Porkchop |
Central NY
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... Says the guy from the losing side
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1/31/2016 4:36:45 PM
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| Frank and Tina |
South East
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Look at this thread. Seems that Trump really is going to bring people to together....lol.
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1/31/2016 5:07:12 PM
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| Joel Young |
Berne, Indiana
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trump trump trump trump
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1/31/2016 8:14:16 PM
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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Frank and Tina...what candidate is bringing people together ? This is the worst group of candidates on both sides since I have been able to vote ? I guess my question should really be which phony bologna liar do you like best ?
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1/31/2016 11:00:32 PM
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| cojoe |
Colorado
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The fact that Hillary and Trump maybe the two major parties nominees for president says a lot about how bad US politics sucks.Rest in peace pat paulson
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2/1/2016 12:36:52 AM
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| it is what it is |
Streator ,Illinois
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Floh ... if you were looking for a comment in a spirit of serenity and mutual respect you should not of open with the comment trashing one of the people running for the nomination, people will defend when attacked and will attack back but I think you know that now,and that is in the spirt of serenity and mutual respect it is what it is
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2/1/2016 4:56:48 AM
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| jlindley |
NE Arkansas
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Frank and Tina... did Obama bring people together? No he divided this country even more...
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2/1/2016 8:41:38 AM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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"If you come to America,and wish to be American,you had better get an American point of view. Otherwise you are just another parasite,living off of what our ancestors built." floh You failed,perhaps intentionally,on quoting the whole statement. I wondered what you meant by "getting personal,and angry". I did neither.
I do not tell Iowans how they should vote,or think,relating to their political process. It is not my biz..
As for the rest of the world,,,if you become part of the United States of America,then your "vote" may count.
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2/1/2016 9:52:23 AM
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| Porkchop |
Central NY
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I think when it comes down to it, at the end of the day, most Americans can agree to disagree and go on with our business..(except maybe spudley)..I'm with mckpumpkin.. Vote how YOU determine your candidate.. Listen to their words.. Not what other people convince you what their words mean...or how they mean their words...lots of speeches on utube... Very exciting ... Good luck Iowa !!.. It almost over ..
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2/1/2016 10:02:47 AM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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Cruz was my choice,because he took on the establishment of D.C.. When "gang of eight" member McCain called Cruz a wacko bird,I saw fear in McCain.
When Cruz "forgot"to declare loans from Wall Street,I forgot him.
No political leader has ever united Americans. We are too diverse for that to happen.
Trump/Carson is interesting.
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2/1/2016 10:26:29 AM
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| Porkchop |
Central NY
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anyone feelin the bern?...
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2/1/2016 10:37:05 AM
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| iceman |
Eddyz@efirehose.net
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I try and stay away from politics, but this has my interest. Donald Trump is no dummy but a smart business man. He doesn't hide from anything and that makes him successful. He does what smart businesses do and that is, If you don't know how to do it, hire the one that does. He has done this all his business career. I don't see any difference in him running the US. How smart of a business man is Donald? Well by self supporting his campaign, he has already made more money than he spent. Occupancy rates in his hotels have increased as much as 28% since he threw his name in the hat and that's only occupancy in hotels, his restaurants, casino's etc etc have all gained. They estimate that by the end of the electoral campaign the Donald will earn in excess of a billion dollars. Not too bad wages for a year. Bottom line, it doesn't matter what outsiders say, It's up to the American people, but actually if I was a voter, I'd back him for the shear business sense. The name calling, the propaganda is just a political maneuver to hit the news reels and guess what, he's on top, because he don't like second place
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2/1/2016 11:05:25 AM
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| Porkchop |
Central NY
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Couldn't have said it better...
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2/1/2016 11:59:25 AM
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| TruckTech1471 |
South Bloomfield, Ohio
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Well said Eddy, and I'm happy to know that the rest of the world is just as interested in U.S. politics as we are this election cycle. Americans will do the best with what they have to choose from.
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2/1/2016 3:37:05 PM
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| Frank and Tina |
South East
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Since the US has interests all over the world, and seeks influence all over the world you cant expect the rest of world to not have an opinion about the next president. His or her actions will have an effect on much more then just US soil or citizens. The choice is for citizens, the effect is world wide.
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2/1/2016 4:58:48 PM
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| Q Tip |
Mn
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I am voting for trump because I feel he gives us the best chance to get Ron growing Giants on the White House lawn! If any president will allow this to happen it will be trump! Trump/Wallace 2017!!!!!
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2/1/2016 5:37:25 PM
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| Q Tip |
Mn
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Forgot to add - word on the street is the White House lawn is a beautiful sandy loam with a ph around 6.8 to 7.
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2/1/2016 5:40:27 PM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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The world has opinions,no matter what. Americans have "world" opinions also,and most times we are told to "piss off",and mind our own business. Like what Citizens in Iowa,are expressing their political opinions tonight,the "world" has the right to express opinions. The difference is that the "world" has No vote. Just saying that their opinions,on our politics,have no weight here.
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2/1/2016 6:32:10 PM
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| Porkchop |
Central NY
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Lol...word on the street huh?...
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2/1/2016 10:13:27 PM
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| Dale M |
Anchorage Alaska
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“Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason.” Mark Twain
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2/2/2016 12:22:14 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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"Since the US has interests all over the world, and seeks influence all over the world you cant expect the rest of world to not have an opinion about the next president."
Well said. In the US and the rest of the world, citizens also have opinions about political leaders in Europe like Angela Merkel.
12 years ago, G.W.Bush & republican friends had a good laugh over here for being political ignorant and illiterate in Afghanistan and Iraq. Since then, Republicans in the US were not supposed to solve international problems anymore and had a reputation to make things even worse.
No Trump anticipation / bashing from this side, but if he could be good in US economy, that doesn´t mean he is suitable being the next president with responsibilties and poltical speech to the rest of the world.
Everyone should only do things being particularly suitable for.
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2/2/2016 5:05:50 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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In addition to my last comment: the only person from the Bush administration being recognized as a straight forward and narrow person from US government over here was Colin Powell anyway.
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2/2/2016 8:48:35 AM
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| Porkchop |
Central NY
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you should vote Rubio if you liked Powell .. Very similar views..if you are judging only by "straight foward and narrow ".. Maybe dr Ben Carson ?..if you like how things are going now and wanna keep this path, secretary Clinton is yer person...either way, lots of people will hate whoever holds power in the usa...
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2/2/2016 9:02:46 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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Hi Porkchop, I´m from Germany, I cant vote in the US. Dr. Ben Carson? If I could, I would...-:)
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2/2/2016 9:39:05 AM
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| BatCaveN8 |
The North Coast
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Bernie saw his shadow so that means 10 months until Hillary.
(This is not an endorsement but just a prognostication)
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2/2/2016 9:53:56 AM
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| Josh Scherer |
Piqua, Ohio
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Nothing better than whipping a dead mule. This post is getting nowhere.
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2/2/2016 10:31:44 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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"This post is getting nowhere"
This post is getting somewhere for sure as soon as the world outside the US knows if Trump is going to be your presidental candidate or not. Riding a dead mule is something else..:-)
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2/2/2016 12:00:02 PM
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| Porkchop |
Central NY
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That was kinda my point...
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2/2/2016 12:26:45 PM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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Pay our taxes,protect our land,raise our children,guard our borders,educate our people,or ride your own mule.
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2/2/2016 3:39:52 PM
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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I'm with MCPUMPKIN...nailed it
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2/2/2016 3:58:48 PM
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| Josh Scherer |
Piqua, Ohio
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We get it floh, you don't like our presidential candidates, I won't vote Democrat or Republican. I'm just saying why keep arguing about this? All posts like this do is cause arguments
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2/2/2016 5:07:54 PM
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| Gritch |
valparaiso, in
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Either way you look at it floh Trump would make a better leader than Angela Merkel. Not sure why you care so much about Trump? Seems to me you have your own problems to worry about over there. If I was in your shoes I would be starting to get very nervous the way things are headed in Germany right now.
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2/2/2016 8:20:29 PM
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| Andy H |
Brooklyn Corner, Nova Scotia
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I'm surprised this post has gained this much traction. Is it because an outsider has concerns who the next president will be or America is worried who the next president will be. Bernie is a great guy, as a neighbor, friend for sure, president I can't see it. So Hilliary vs who.....are you happy with your choices.
Before you get your panties in a bunch, this is an observation, not a condemnation. Don't laugh, I personally feel that Mitt Romney would trump ( see what I did there) any of the other GOP candidates in terms of credibility and presence.
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2/2/2016 9:23:29 PM
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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I agree with that Andy,,,Hillary scares me as much as Trump does,,,maybe more so
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2/2/2016 9:36:25 PM
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| TruckTech1471 |
South Bloomfield, Ohio
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Let's just say that U.S. citizens have had enough of the same old Washington crap which has gotten us where we are today and are sick and tired of the news media believing it is their responsibility and eternal right to control the next occupant of the White House. No doubt in my mind it will be a Republican candidate but, the question remains, which one? I'm still a Carson guy. Gonna be a long, blistering summer.
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2/2/2016 10:18:27 PM
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| Barbeetwo |
that way <<<<<<
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I think it was Einstein who said if you do the same thing over and over again and expect a different outcome you're an idiot......two parties, career polititians, all lawyers to boot!....it just doesn't work.
Trump 2016.
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2/3/2016 4:50:58 PM
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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Ben Franklin...the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results
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2/3/2016 7:14:57 PM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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Ted Cruz showed the world how to fry bacon on a machine gun and Trump claims no American football without head banging and head kicking, it´s too soft.
Republicans welcome.
Do this for yourself in the US if you like it. Don´t bother the rest of the world with such knowledge and behaviour. If you don´t have a suitable president, stay out of international affairs in future.
This is probably all to be said concerning countries and opinions outside the US right now.
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2/4/2016 10:44:24 AM
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| Josh Scherer |
Piqua, Ohio
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Can't agree more. Try writing a letter to our president, as we are just gardeners not the ones making decisions to go to these countries.
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2/4/2016 11:24:29 AM
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| Porkchop |
Central NY
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Floh-... Got your point.....be careful what you wish for...
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2/4/2016 1:09:26 PM
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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wow...if not for us your leader would most likely be Putin... your welcome ,,,even if you are quick forgetting ungrateful lot
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2/4/2016 5:13:05 PM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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cheddah, I´m not a Putin supporter. But imagine what would happen in the big former USSR without a person like him - even more chaos, war and terror. Of which we have more than enough right now just in front of the European borders.
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2/4/2016 6:04:16 PM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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I think in this thread we still have a good and argumentative base of discussion with different points of view from both sides of the pond without aggressive speech, which is unfortunately common in most political threads on public message boards. Thank you.
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2/4/2016 6:44:22 PM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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"If you don´t have a suitable president, stay out of international affairs in future." LOL Nothing aggressive in that. nope BLESS YOUR HEART!
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2/4/2016 8:30:42 PM
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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FLOH...I aggressively stand by my previous post...thankyou
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2/4/2016 8:54:06 PM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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MCPUMKPKIN, you said your next president should make things better for the US. This will be good for you.
I said, if your next president is going to be involved in international affairs, it might be different and a suitable person should do the job. Nothing else.
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2/4/2016 8:54:23 PM
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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not what you said,,,
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2/4/2016 10:59:39 PM
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| DJ SpudKin |
Nampa
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Here's hoping for some change...I can only think that any change from what we've had will be improvement. I really thought the Trump would be a flash in the pan, but that hasn't been the case. It's sure nice to see some options on the republican ticket. In another month it will become more clear. There doesn't seem to be any mystery or intrigue with the Democrat ticket. A vote for Bubba is a vote for a better life and a better world. We can start a write in campaign.
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2/5/2016 1:18:13 AM
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| Smallmouth |
Upa Creek, MO
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No kidding Cheedah, his exact words were:
"If you don´t have a suitable president, stay out of international affairs in future".
You don't see many people inaccurately paraphrase their own quote a couple lines below the original often. lmao
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2/5/2016 8:20:02 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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No intention to paraphrase myself, reading between the lines was the idea.
Paraphrasing myself, here it is: "If Trump is that good in making money, give him the ministries of finance and economy. For political speech and foreign affairs, please choose another person being suitable for the job."
Diefferent words, still the same statement.
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2/5/2016 8:48:06 AM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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I never said that our next president will do ANYTHING.
Between the lines is blank space.
BLESS YOUR HEART!
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2/5/2016 10:42:01 AM
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| Gritch |
valparaiso, in
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floh is it people like you that are making me seriously consider voting for Trump if he runs.
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2/5/2016 9:38:54 PM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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When the US went into the wars of the last 15 years, everyone realized being in countries they never heard of, facing invisible enemies, for reasons no soldier involved basically understood.
This is why since the Bush administration there is an international loss of confidence into the abilities and capabilities of what US republican presidents did concerning foreign affairs.
Bombing places flat leaving the war refugees to Europe is no solution anymore, that is what the islamic terrorists are good for. It´s 2016 right now and the world does not need the Bush or Rambo style US president anymore. So it should be accepted there are some concerns around the world. And keep in mind, the big financial crash in 2008 was caused in the US when Bush was your president.
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2/6/2016 6:55:19 AM
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| Porkchop |
Central NY
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Don't be scared floh
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2/6/2016 9:22:01 AM
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| Josh Scherer |
Piqua, Ohio
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Then write a letter to the president. Do you think we pumpkin growers have a say in what countries get bombed? I'don't be more worried about Putin than the US.
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2/6/2016 10:23:00 AM
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| Mike F. |
Hanson Ma
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"the big financial crash in 2008 was caused in the US when Bush was your president" Floh check that a little futher and I think you'll find that started back in the Clinton era. when the fair housing act was started and banks weren't supposed to say no to people who couldn't afford the houses they were buying.
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2/6/2016 10:34:30 AM
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| Smallmouth |
Upa Creek, MO
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Instead of spewing your hate for America on a vegetable website, you should save your Euros and come lobby here in the States. I suggest rural Texas for you, people there would love to hear your thoughts.
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2/6/2016 10:37:20 AM
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| West of the Blue Ridge |
Waynesboro, Virginia
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Uploaded on Mar 17, 2007 In an interview with Amy Goodman on March 2, 2007, U.S. General Wesley Clark (Ret.), explains that the Bush Administration planned to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Lybia, Somalia, Sudan, Iran
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2/6/2016 10:38:54 AM
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| West of the Blue Ridge |
Waynesboro, Virginia
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Uploaded on Mar 17, 2007 In an interview with Amy Goodman on March 2, 2007, U.S. General Wesley Clark (Ret.), explains that the Bush Administration planned to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Lybia, Somalia, Sudan, Iran
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2/6/2016 10:38:54 AM
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| West of the Blue Ridge |
Waynesboro, Virginia
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXS3vW47mOE
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2/6/2016 10:39:31 AM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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"Everyone should only do things being particularly suitable for." Hmmm..Do mean perhaps,that a PHYSICIST should not be a Chancellor?
floh,you have gone from "Germans think",to the "world thinks". WOW! I bet you can see Russia from there!
You have also gone from bashing one man,to an entire AMERICAN political party.
Bush has been gone for near eight years. Love Obama all you want. He has not brought law and order to the Arab world. If he had of,you would not be up to your eyeballs in "refugees".
The huge influx of refugees,started for Europe,when the ARAB SPRING started. Late 2010. Not because of bombing,or American military occupation. But because of lawlessness,and Islamic extremism. Seems OPEN BORDERS did that.
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2/6/2016 11:29:22 AM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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General W. Clark retired in 2000. George W.Bush became president in 2001.
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2/6/2016 11:34:19 AM
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| West of the Blue Ridge |
Waynesboro, Virginia
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Yes and he is talking about being told this 2 weeks after 911...on or about Sept. 20 I think he says...Your point is?
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2/6/2016 11:50:19 AM
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| West of the Blue Ridge |
Waynesboro, Virginia
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Yes and he is talking about being told this 2 weeks after 911...on or about Sept. 20 I think he says...Your point is?
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2/6/2016 11:50:19 AM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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He was told by whom? And can this be verified? Did it happen? No.
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2/6/2016 12:35:07 PM
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| West of the Blue Ridge |
Waynesboro, Virginia
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I believe 6 out of 7 countries have been destroyed since 2007.Iran is the only one left with a central bank.Maybe it was a lucky guess.
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2/6/2016 1:01:15 PM
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| Porkchop |
Central NY
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Trump/mckpumpkin 2016
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2/6/2016 1:10:01 PM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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Bush was out in 2009. Other than Iraq,what countries,between 2007 and 2009 were "destroyed"? Who told Clark,and when was he told?<<<<<<<important<<<<<
The current president of the USA,has been commander in chief since Jan.20 2009.
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2/6/2016 1:13:39 PM
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| West of the Blue Ridge |
Waynesboro, Virginia
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LOL...Fiat and Petro dollars forever...
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2/6/2016 1:18:20 PM
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| West of the Blue Ridge |
Waynesboro, Virginia
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Ohh, I see. A timing issue. Maybe it took a little longer than expected.Here's a little drone footage of Damascus taken last month.
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2/6/2016 1:26:24 PM
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| West of the Blue Ridge |
Waynesboro, Virginia
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51v4L1wxvsg
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2/6/2016 1:26:39 PM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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There is distrust in republican persons like Donald Trump to be a US president with worldwide (military) influence not only in Germany after the years of Bush.
Has nothing to do with big likes for Obama. A president should be more a good diplomat than a warlord today. I don´t think this fact is that new or surprising, only on foxnews.
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2/6/2016 2:33:28 PM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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Concerning international politics and foreign affairs, tell me the point when Donald Trump showed more than rhetorical illiteracy or some non-hating diplomatic speech so far...
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2/6/2016 3:28:51 PM
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| Gritch |
valparaiso, in
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I love it when Libtards resort to saying crap about Fox News. The only thing you left out floh was calling it "Faux" News. It shows your true colors.
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2/7/2016 12:41:50 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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"I would bring back waterboarding," Trump said Saturday night at a Republican debate in New Hampshire. "And I would bring a hell of a lot worse."
Ted Cruz, meanwhile, is fond of saying he'd "carpet bomb" the Islamic State.
If ever elected, I hope "politicians" like that will stay far away from the rest of the world and do their business in the US where they belong to.
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2/7/2016 5:10:32 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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Comment on facebook concerning the NH debate: "A sad day for American civilization. A presidential candidate seriously announced that he wants to reintroduce torture."
If Trump needs more information on "how to bring a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding" - which in the middle Ages was a bizzarre Witch Trial Test - in Europe we still preserve the methods and hardware of medieval torture in some museums, if this potential presidental candidate of 2016 likes to learn more about his future projects.
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2/7/2016 6:52:37 AM
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| Josh Scherer |
Piqua, Ohio
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Then write Donald Trump a letter. We can't as pumpkin growers do anything about it. I guess I'm going to do some research on Germany and start batching about your politicians on a pumpkin growing forum.
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2/7/2016 9:05:43 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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Feel free to share opinions where you like. This is the world of today with all the opportunities even a pumkin grower has.
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2/7/2016 9:16:54 AM
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| Porkchop |
Central NY
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I'm in favor of torture...limb and quarter...send floh the head...
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2/7/2016 9:27:40 AM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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Ahahahahahah! FACEBOOK! The new world order of Facebook! WELLLL THEN! I MUST to change my mind,that foreigners, should PISS OFF, when it comes to AMERICAN's biz! SIEG HEIL BABY! FEH!
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2/7/2016 10:36:55 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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MCPUMPKIN: "SIEG HEIL BABY!" This is just the way your favourite republican candidates do it right now. congrats. Live long and prosper - Vulcan salute to you.
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2/7/2016 11:38:35 AM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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And by the way, MCPUMPKIN, "I MUST to change my mind,that foreigners, should PISS OFF, when it comes to AMERICAN's biz!" then do yourself a favour and please keep out of international affairs outside the US as well in future. Thank you.
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2/7/2016 11:55:14 AM
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| overtherainbow |
Oz
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I DO stay out of international affairs. Thank yourself.
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2/7/2016 12:39:31 PM
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| floh |
Cologne / Germany
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"I DO stay out of international affairs. Thank yourself."
If Trump will be your next president, he will probably not. That´s what I´m talking about. Have a nice Sunday.
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2/7/2016 12:51:56 PM
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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K ...see ya dude
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2/7/2016 9:20:27 PM
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