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Subject: St.Louis Cardinals...CHEATERS !!!
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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Well well,,,,nothing to see here folks just some computer hacking and info stealing...They are obviously guilty,,without a doubt ...the order to carry out this crime/hack obviously came from upper management ie..the GM or pres of baseball ops because no lower level front office personnel would ever do something without being told to do so...probably been going on for sometime...would explain why Larussa retired in the midst of a dynasty type run...
They should be stripped of their worldseries title and barred from playing in the playoffs this year.
I feel bad for the fans like Smallmouth Luke...but hey its not to late to jump on the Royals bandwagon ...
Only 2 questions need to be answered - why didnt mlb hire Ted Wells to do an independent investigation ? And how many games is Tom Brady going to get suspended for because its more probable than not that he had at least a general awareness that the Cardinals front office was perpetrating this "Hack Gate" ?
You heard it hear first folks Hack-Gate
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6/16/2015 9:28:57 PM
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| KC Kevin |
Mission Viejo, CA
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It will be interesting to see how the commish handles the punishment. Outside of whatever charges the Federal Govt might bring, MLB has to take action. Fines and draft pick loss won't cut it.
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6/17/2015 5:54:18 PM
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| TNorange |
Hot West Tennessee
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What, hold your horses guys. Wait a few days till this is sorted out. Mean while lets just play baseball.
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6/17/2015 6:51:27 PM
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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Honestly to me this isn't a huge deal...I don't look at the Cards as being cheaters given we really know next to nothing as far as the facts go...whoever committed the cyber crime will have to answer to the law....My post above was just to poke at the folks who convicted the patriots based on media reports and the Ted Wells sham report
They hate us cuz they ain't us
I'm on the wall
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6/17/2015 9:14:47 PM
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| Smallmouth |
Upa Creek, MO
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This post is a joke, it is day 2 of the allegations and this was written on day 1. Let the details unfold. Reminds me of the protestors who show up calling for the cops to have charges pressed against them 20 minutes after every officer involved incident.
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6/17/2015 9:56:40 PM
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| Orangeneck (Team HAMMER) |
Eastern Pennsylvania
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Are you kidding? Tom Brady, the NFL, MLB, the cards, who gives a crap about the inter league fines and penalties? Forget the playoffs, this isn't a deflated football, this is corporate espionage we are talking about here. Jail time.
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6/17/2015 11:13:48 PM
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| KC Kevin |
Mission Viejo, CA
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I think it would be fair to forfiet all wins. From the beginning of time.
Signed, A Dodger Fan
LOL
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6/18/2015 12:42:48 AM
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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Ouch...jail time for a Cardinals employee would make him or her a jail-bird lol...I would say the Cardinals are going to be eating quite a bit of crow over the next couple weeks.
I place of jail time for the Cards upper management(they obviously ordered this cyber crime) I think it would be fitting to re-name the team the St.Louis Stool Pigeons ,,,or life in prison with out the possibility of parole
I am still worried Roger "the fuhrer" Goodell will some how try to tie Brady and the Pats to these criminal birds !!!
Good thing Stan the man isn't around for this
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6/18/2015 1:07:54 AM
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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edit.....In place of jail time
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6/18/2015 1:08:42 AM
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| Captain 97 |
Stanwood, Washington
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I don't know if this was really cheating per say as it sounds like it really had nothing at all to do with baseball but it was more of a personal spat between The Astros GM (who used to work for the Cardinals)and employees of the Cardinals who had an axe to grind with him. Its in a whole different category than someone actually tampering with things in the game like Brady Did. Its definitely a crime though and someone is going to get some sort of punishment.
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6/19/2015 11:54:07 AM
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| WiZZy |
Little-TON - Colorado
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Serious Cheddah? Do you really believe that Tom had NO IDEA only the ballZ on hiZ side lines happen to loose air pressure? All year long....Hmmmm
"ItZ about an unfair advantage"..... The Ball boy admitted he did it... sorry... I guess I didnt see the fine print in the contract that MVP's dont have to follow the ruleZ...
Just out... on the rumor mill that the the Patriots will be hiring their IT guy for this year......lol
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6/22/2015 6:02:57 PM
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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Wiz...where are you getting these "facts" ? So i guess the Boston Globe ,The NY Times and now The Washington post a wrong in calling the Wells Report a sham....
Who is your source on the ball boy admitting it ? where can i find it ?
Clearly you havnt read the Wells report or the articles by the NY Time or the Washington post pointing out the the clearly false an highly suspect "air pressure gauging" of said footballs
Fact...in the last 10 years no team has been penalized more for cheating than the Broncos...HMMMMM
On the wall-always
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6/22/2015 7:05:06 PM
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| WiZZy |
Little-TON - Colorado
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lol... Wikipedia is not the most reliable source...but I ding it does list many other linkZ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeflateGate
and to what I lol about....BallGhaZi... Cant see what you dont look for Cheddah.... Deal is teams complained about this all year long... Truth will set you free..
And I find it odd that you say what you do about the BroncZ I find that if a NFL player tests poZ for drugZ doesnt mean the TEAM cheated...meanZ the player waZ trying to cheat.. and got caught...In the case of Von Miller, he denied it, tried to manipulate the system, got more games.... and deserved every bit of his punishment... ThatZ where we differ Ched... Tom needs to tell the truth.. and come clean... Hell get it reduced by two gameZ...is my call. Shady Brady is not bigger than the system... Neither is Belicheat
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6/24/2015 5:39:21 PM
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| cheddah |
norway , maine
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LOL.....I am glad you mentioned Von Miller...cuz the Broncoz PEDZ use goes way beyond Miller..lets take a look 2006- P -Todd Sauerbrun 2007-DE- Kenny Peterson 2012-TE- Virgil Green 2012-LB- DJ Williams 2012-DT- Ryan McBean 2012- G- Quentin Saulsberry 2013-LB- Von Miller- also found guilty of cheating the urine collection system !!! 2014-WR- Wes Welker
All of the above players were suspended for testing positive for PED use...
Now lets take a look at the Broncos Super Bowl years...gets interesting...So the Broncos won back to back Super Bowls in 97' and 98'. Tremendous accomplishment...or is it ?
Salary Cap Gate 96'-98' - The Broncos were punished in 2001 and again in 2004 for having been found to have cheated the NFL'S salary cap system...having an illegal roster is an obvious competitive advantage and the league fined the Broncos 1.9 million dollars and two 3rd round draft picks... theres more...
Slim-Gate 1998- In the 1998 afc divisional Playoff game 3 offensive linemen were found to have covered their arms in a foreign substance (later found to be vaseline) so defenders couldnt get a grip on them ,,,Brian Habib,Gary Zimmerman and Mark Schlereth were each fined for the illegal substance .....teams had complained of this all year...pretty sure Terell Davis had a big year that year if I am not mistaken
Sooo... it seemZ your 2 Super BowlZ are aZ tainted aZ you claim the Patriots are...and that your veiw or take on the matter is perhapsZ a wee bit self righteous ...not to mention convoluted ....
Oh ya ...where in that wikipedia article does it say the ball boy admitted it ?
Lol..."The truth will set you free"...thats cute...
Try this...Don't let the facts get in the way of your argument !
on the wall
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6/24/2015 8:42:45 PM
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| WiZZy |
Little-TON - Colorado
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I got pumpkins to grow...and dont need to waist Kens bandwidth on this non sense... we are not getting anywhereZ...CheerZ.
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6/25/2015 1:16:01 PM
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