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Lodi, California

Hi,

I happened to find this and immediately became interested. Study's have shown that magnetism improves growth of plants and the germination of seeds. A theory is that the force of the magnet, despite the fact that plants do not contain adequate iron, encourages plant roots to grow more quickly, sort of like how gravity encourages roots to grow down. I do not have any scientific evidence proving this, nor does it seem like any one really does as of yet, but here are some links on the topic if anyone is interested.

http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4927243_magnetic-fields-affect-plant-growth.html#page=0

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/the-effect-of-magnetism-on-plant-growth.html

Of course, im not stating that this is 100 percent true, but there is proof that plants grown under magnetized conditions (magnetized water, or even magnetizing the seed itself) have shown increased growth rates.

3/27/2014 9:16:46 PM

you gotta stop my sides hurt
all kinds of knowledge on internet

how did we ever survive without it

3/27/2014 9:24:23 PM

Concord, CA.

Don,
I read about this somewhere before too. But I thought that it was the music coming out from in front of the magnets. (speakers) they say that the right music improves the mood of the plant and therefore it grows better.

3/27/2014 9:48:01 PM

i have the music on cd its not just any ole stuff nope
3 easy payments of 19.99 and if you act now il throw in bonus shower song for watering call now

3/27/2014 9:52:58 PM

Minnesota

They also sell pyramids that you can put in gardens, around plants. Have'nt bought one yet. Sounds good, mix in magnets with my seedling soil!

3/27/2014 10:29:19 PM

Eugene,OR

I heard that magnets will improve your bowel movements too.

3/27/2014 10:59:18 PM

British Columbia, Canada

Ashton, its great that you are interested in this stuff, but remember: don't believe everything you read on the internet!

3/27/2014 11:02:24 PM

Lodi, California

I have found a more specific source of information. According to the source, when water is magnetized, it is "softened". This allows for a greater solubility of nutrients. Please read this link.

http://www.forcemagneticsolution.com/showlink.asp?id=274

I never said that this was an ethical thing. I just thought that it would be nice to post a link on the topic, as I thought that in needed further investigation.

3/27/2014 11:52:14 PM

Concord, CA.

Seriously Ashton,
There is some merit to the idea of treating water with magnets. Whether or not it has value to a grower is another story.
Hey, I got asked today if giant pumpkins are grown using dish soap? I get a lot of comments about using 'Milk', but dish soap is a first. When you bring up an odd topic here for conversation, expect us to have fun with it. There's no disrespect intended, do keep bringing up the good topics.

3/28/2014 12:54:17 AM

Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com

I don't totally dismiss the idea of magnetism affecting plant growth. After all, birds use magnetism to guide their migrations, but no one understands how they do it. I know that water can affect magnetic fields. I have been able to find old tile lines in fields by walking along with 2 bent wires. When you cross the tile the wires will turn into each other magnetically. I used to think that this was just silliness until someone showed me how to do it. But I think that it will take a whole bunch of research to figure this out and determine just what kind or strength of magnetic field works best. At your age Ashton, you might have enough time to do that.

3/28/2014 7:14:44 AM

Gays Mills, Wisconsin

I just did a quick search w/o finding anything but thought I'd share part of a backyard pumpkin discussion.
Billy: "Hey, what if we put a magnetic sheet over pumpkin? Would that help calcium uptake?"
Bob: "The calcium would need to be in a chelated form in order to be magnetic"
True?

3/28/2014 7:49:31 AM

Central Illinois

wasnt someone trying this on BP using seedlings in 2013

3/28/2014 7:56:37 AM

bliss,n.y.- heart of Wyoming County

Seriously- Back in the mid to late 1960's the Rodale Organic Research Farm was doing research into the effect of electro-magnetic fields on plant growth. Both JR and Bob Rodale were really working on this in conjunction with organic gardeners. I was a teen then and became involved in the experimentation. The concept was the idea of row direction and running a copper wire above the plants. The theory was the wire would be crossed by natural magnetic lines of force and the resulting energy would influence plant growth. In my experiments, the results were inconclusive.

3/28/2014 8:11:30 AM

Hinckley MN

didn't they do some experiments in the 80's with sending seeds into space and exposing them to radiation? and now we have 2000lb pumpkins. Coincidence?

3/28/2014 8:59:37 AM

South Hero, VT

Has anyone tried prayer and holy water?

3/28/2014 11:23:38 AM

Germany

Prayer along the magnetic field lines or perpendicular? Holy water "as is" or magnetized?

3/28/2014 11:34:03 AM

Germany

...want to indicate that, for those who prefer to perform a dance around their pumpkin, the direction (right-turn or left-turn) could play a crucial role because of the vector of circular dance momentum being perpendicular to the magnetic field lines of the planet and parallel to gravity, but the direction of this vector could be in the same direction as gravity or in the opposite direction, and this depends on whether you dance in a right-turn or in a left-turn. Not sure of the different pumpkin shapes (upright wheels vs. flat pumpkins) arise from the different directions of the dance of their growers (and the nicely round shaped pumpkins from growers who gave a damn on dancing around their pumpkins), but at least it would be an attempt of an interpretation based on the right-hand-rule of physics (dependence of the relative directions of field, momentum and action). Now back to the magnetized holy water (with and without prayers added)...

3/28/2014 11:41:15 AM

Concord, CA.

Pumpking,
Well said. I was just going to mention all that, but you beat me to it. I might add however, all of that is performed opposite when you happen to be in the Southern Hemisphere.

3/28/2014 12:00:05 PM

Western ny

ashton, where do u come up with this junk stuff ??? you should spend more time growing pumpkin and less time asking questions.

3/28/2014 1:09:09 PM

Nottingham, UK

"When water is magnetised it is softened" No offence intended but sounds like typical comercial advertising bull locks!

Why not just stick with superhydrated water? I can do you some for a good price but you must water it on under a full moon for best effects.

3/28/2014 1:25:59 PM

Germany

Better suggestion: Fill some of your favorite water in a bottle of that type which looks really really scientific, and label it "dihydrogen monoxide" and use only sparingly (better dilute with heaps of regular water), because it is one of the most active chemicals in terms of bringing organisms into their state of thermodynamic equilibrium. It is toxic by excessive inhalation (2-4 L of dihydrogen monoxide in your loungs and you are done) and you can find many many more cool descriptions of what it can do to you and to plants and to whatsoever...the only problem with dihydrogen monoxide is that it tells you the formula and, for those who analyze this formula, it becomes clear that dihydrogen monoxide in its electronic ground state is in a singulet state (that is: diamagnetic) and thus doesn´t carry any units for the storage/memory of magnetic information, and the diamagnetic contribution only responds to the external magnetic field in the very moment it is exposed to it (Lenz´ law) and this response will be gone immediately as the dihydrogen monoxide (I better call it DHMO for the sake of saving time) is removed from the external magnetic field, and one could also argue with the proton nuclear spin as a magnetic memory, but even in this case the relaxation of information is faster than you could apply your DHMO to the patch.

@Nor-Cal_BP: You are absolutely right with the Southern hemisphere thing, indeed I forgot to mention this very important point. Thanks heaps for helping.

3/28/2014 2:14:30 PM

British Columbia, Canada

what?

3/28/2014 2:30:21 PM

Germany

@JABC, I thought you wanted to take a year off?...in the mean time I thought we could develop a new method for growing bigger and better and more magnetic, and then the most ferromagnetic pumpkin will lift the scales even before it hits the scales (this will become a new competition class, I´m sure), and then in a year or two you could benefit from all the knowledge you have absorbed right here right now.

Well, your "WHAT?" tells me that I sort of haven´t hit the nail, but perhaps in the one or two years (as mentioned above) you may as well notice that all the above conversation wasn´t worth any effort of understanding, and therefore your simple "WHAT?" probably was the best time saving comment you could have made.

3/28/2014 4:06:07 PM

Concord, CA.

JABritish Columbia,
What part of this conversation are you questioning?

- magnets in growing pumpkins?
- music in growing pumpkins?
- pyramids in growing pumpkins?
- magnets to aid bowel evacuations?
- magnets to treat water?
- electromagnetic fields in growing pumpkins?
- seeds in space with radiation?
- prayers and holy water in pumpkin growing?
- prayers and magnetic field lines in pumpkin growing?
- vectored momentum during multidirectional pumpkin dancing?
- water softening by exposure to magnetism for pumpkin growing?
- the use of superhydrated water for pumpkin growing?
- the use of dihydrogen monoxide and its effects on pumpkins into their state of thermodynamic equilibrium and its danger to humans?

I don't think we missed anything in this thread, let us know just what info you need and I'm sure that someone will fill you in further.

3/28/2014 4:23:49 PM

British Columbia, Canada

I think Ken should create a new message board called "Pumpkin Conspiracies."

3/28/2014 4:39:10 PM

British Columbia, Canada

And amelio could be the moderator for that board.

3/28/2014 4:41:59 PM

Germany

Oh no! General Discussion is just about the right place, we want to share our secrets just for the benefit of all of us, that´s what we did, what we do and what we want to continue to do, isn´t it?

3/28/2014 4:43:35 PM

Deerfield, Michigan

Our local priest stops by every spring and during the summer to check on how things are going. He even says a prayer for good weather and great crops. Maybe I should ask him to bring by some holy water this year. lol

3/28/2014 4:44:10 PM

Germany

magnetized manure silage...yummy

3/28/2014 4:45:10 PM

norway , maine

andy s...you should back off the kid...asking questions is what this site is for...if you dont have something to offer perhaps you should shut it !

3/28/2014 4:45:36 PM

Germany

@afv, if that´s true, then you better feel blessed to have such a kind priest and don´t talk too blasphemic in this context (IMHO), don´t hurt your priest with jokes about holy water...better ask him about his opinion on magnets.

3/28/2014 4:47:38 PM

Nottingham, UK

Jorg, your paragraph on dihydrogen monoxide made me reminise about my undergraduate chemistry days and thats going back some years.

Today I received some flower seeds through the post and sure know how to pick them. Packet 1: "1-3 months germination time".....What!!!!, they'll be getting some magnetic field time. Packet 2: " All parts are poisonous"...... great!.."Honey, there are some lovely flowers here to be cut" ;)

3/28/2014 5:32:46 PM

Germany

Pete, you´re a lucky one, the "all parts poisonous" flowers only need about 30-90 days for germination (instead of 1-3 months), that could actually save one or two days. Magnetize them all...

3/28/2014 5:40:12 PM

anytown U.S,A,

Look at least the kid is researching. And then he is asking the question to BP the growing community to see if it has any merit. Better than some who are just parrots and repeat and repeat.

3/28/2014 5:49:04 PM

Torrance, Ca.

Some how, some way Al,,,,,, you always put a laugh on my face! :)

3/28/2014 5:54:07 PM

Lodi, California

http://www.nipne.ro/rjp/2008_53_1-2/0353_0360.pdf

The verdict is not perceived as guilty until proven so. I simply brought up the topic, that does not mean that you must trash ones idea simply do to the fact that that person has posted a seemingly unlikely idea for examination by others.

3/28/2014 6:26:02 PM

anytown U.S,A,

Agreed Ashton

3/28/2014 6:52:09 PM

Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com

When I started working for USDA in 1983, if someone told me that he would use a grain drill to notill plant soybeans in a weedy field, spray it all a couple times with Roundup and get 70 bushels to the acre, I would have called him crazy. Roundup killed everything and the best farmers were getting 35 bushels to the acre. When I retired in 2013 that crazy farmer was just average. Who knows? Maybe someday we will be burying magnets under our plants or hanging them overhead. What seems crazy now may be normal in the future.

3/28/2014 7:06:21 PM

Buffalo, MN (Billsbigpumpkins@hotmail.com)

Ashton I have several spare magnets in the basement. I don’t know if would help or not, but I do know that if I were to put the magnets on the well faucet to magnetize the water to my pumpkins and grew a 2500 pound pumpkin everyone on this board would be buying them next year. Keep looking pg3

3/28/2014 7:12:17 PM

Johnston, Iowa

#yolo

3/28/2014 9:59:18 PM

British Columbia, Canada

#swag

3/28/2014 10:26:13 PM

Germany

Dear Ashton,
we (at least most of us) are just having fun by the thought of some "new methods" which are proven to be of the kind that their way of action cannot be proven (in a scientific manner), but they are proven to make those some rich guys who sell that stuff. Well, it just happened that you had been the one who brought up that topic, but the long list of comments in this thread would have been the same or at least very similar if anyone else would have brought up this topic, so therefore please don´t feel offended in person. Some of your threads are scientifically highly interesting stuff, and from the comments of the other growers you notice immediately that you have hit the right point. Thus, you can see the diffent kinds of response as a helpful tool for the evaluation of the relevance of the individual topic to pumpkin growing.

3/29/2014 2:33:52 AM

Germany

By the way, I hope you read these lines, this time I didn´t want to send them via email, because I have the impression you ignore emails. Reason: On Nov. 24th 2013, right after you had posted your suggestion with the customized seed labels, I had sent you an email (to "taxbuster2[at]msn[dot]com", thought this was your email addy, so please correct me if I´m wrong) even before others had responded to your thread. The email original text is given below, and the reason for emailing was that I had attached an example PDF which cannot be uploaded on the message board. Notice that there is a questionmark at the end of the email? Thus, I had been waiting for response from your end, but never reveivd any message.

Here comes the email text from Nov. 24th 2013:


Hi Ashton,
in 2011 I had created label stickers for my seeds (example attached), and it might be the thing you would want to offer as customized seed packages, because some growers prefer coin envelopes, other growers prefer plastic zip bags.

Your offer could consist of the following:
- a certain number of color label stickers (depending on how many label stickers fit onto each sheet)
- the envelopes of choice (coin envelopes or plastic zip bags of similar size)
- the choice whether people want to order stickers and envelopes or ready-to-use envelopes with stickers.

The stickers thing makes everything much more flexible, and as soon as you have created the sticker you can print as many as you want, and the envelopes will look much more uniform, and you can easily go up to offering 200 or more envelopes for a seed without too much effort.

What do you think about that?

Cheers,
Jörg

3/29/2014 2:33:57 AM

Germany

By the way, this was not the only friendly email I had sent to this address in the past, and I never received any response, but this email was an email which actually had had a questionmark at the end...therefore it was the example I had picked here and now.

3/29/2014 2:38:03 AM

Mnt.pleasant ,tennessee

Ashton i read on this also ,from what i took from it the magnets mite have pull on the roots.tried a few experiments with earth magnets.didnt see nothing special tho

3/29/2014 9:02:32 AM

Randolph vt

Looking for mill fabric in the Vermont area any suggestions? Thanks

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