General Discussion
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Subject: Manure Talk
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| Christopher24 |
aurora, IL
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What kind of animal manure are you going to use this year in your pumpkin patch or garden?
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3/11/2014 4:56:12 PM
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| Christopher24 |
aurora, IL
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I am trying composted buffalo manure to help start my giant pumpkin and squash seeds in April. You can get it at Menards it's called, "Buffaloam". Also, I will use composted cow and horse manure in my pumpkin patch.
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3/11/2014 5:01:14 PM
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| yardman |
Mnt.pleasant ,tennessee
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Rabbit for me for now& forever
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3/11/2014 5:18:45 PM
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| WiZZy |
Little-TON - Colorado
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Rabbit, and goose... no horse
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3/11/2014 6:05:43 PM
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| North Shore Boyz |
Mill Bay, British Columbia
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I know a guy, second year grower...grew a 1400 lb plus pumpkin using a composted manure product from a Buffalo ranching operation...hmmmmm...
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3/11/2014 6:11:57 PM
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| PumpkinBrat |
Paradise Mountain, New York
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Gary Miller believe any type of manure is bad for the garden. Even composted, he says all manure carries diseases. He stopped using manures all together. Now he uses only composted leaves.A few of the other top growers who are past the 1,800 plus mark, don't use manures at all.
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3/11/2014 6:38:10 PM
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| Nor-Cal_BP |
Concord, CA.
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Squirrels for me.
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3/11/2014 6:56:15 PM
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| Slim |
Whitehall Montana
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Rabbit,and cow poo and 90lbs of alfalfa pellets.
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3/11/2014 6:56:26 PM
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| Nor-Cal_BP |
Concord, CA.
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Squirrels for me.
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3/11/2014 6:57:01 PM
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| cojoe |
Colorado
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40% horse-60% leaves. Composted and eaten by red wigglers.
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3/11/2014 7:01:21 PM
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| So.Cal.Grower |
Torrance, Ca.
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Interesting North Shore and I may have to look into those squirrels Nor-Cal,,,,,,,,,,,
Now you got me thinking............ and that's usually not a good thing.
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3/11/2014 7:23:34 PM
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| Nor-Cal_BP |
Concord, CA.
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So.Cal, I know what your thinking, and your right. It's like this; When I catch those devious little critters, there's no sign that I have scared the "manure" out of them. So when I till them in, I figure that they are still full of manure.
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3/11/2014 7:39:47 PM
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| Christopher24 |
aurora, IL
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PumpkinBrat, do you know what kind of leaves Gary Miller used maybe maple leaves? I hope not Oak leaves!
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3/11/2014 8:30:06 PM
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| Christopher24 |
aurora, IL
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Also, if animal manure is composted and aged properly it should be disease free, if not than composted manure from big box stores or garden centers are diseased.
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3/11/2014 8:38:59 PM
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| Bry |
Glosta
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woodchuck manure, nutrients in it came from my plants anyways!
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3/11/2014 9:38:30 PM
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| 8buck |
Southeastern Idaho
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VERY old grass fed cow manure. This is my first time though.
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3/11/2014 10:51:48 PM
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| yardman |
Mnt.pleasant ,tennessee
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Its all worm manure in the end
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3/11/2014 11:22:17 PM
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| PumpkinBrat |
Paradise Mountain, New York
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Using Oak leaves are a myth. You can compost Oak leaves for a year and your good to go. Do a good web search and you will see that a year of a good hot compost of Oak leaves are safe
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3/11/2014 11:37:12 PM
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| PumpkinBrat |
Paradise Mountain, New York
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Gary Miller was a farmer for years. That's why he doesn't use any manure and stated they carry diseases. Plus, look at all the medicine they treat cows with.
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3/11/2014 11:39:24 PM
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| Richard |
Minnesota
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I hunt thru the woods for squatch manure.
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3/12/2014 3:53:24 AM
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| Smallmouth |
Upa Creek, MO
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Oak just take longer to break down, Walnut is what you should avoid.
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3/12/2014 7:39:35 AM
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| PumpkinBrat |
Paradise Mountain, New York
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If leaves like Oak or Walnut are bad, Take a walk out in the woods. Nature has been dealing with leaves falling every year for millions of years. So it there bad, why do natural woods and forest look so healthy....
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3/12/2014 9:47:58 AM
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| Christopher24 |
aurora, IL
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Good point pumpkinBrat, but pumpkin plants are not trees. I did not know you could use oak leaves because I heard they can take nitrogen from the soil. I was like thinking getting a compost tumbler to break down leaves and kitchen scraps like banana peels, egg shells, apple cores, or any rotting fruit or vegetable. Also, it is really cool to see what other growers are using in their patch this year.
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3/12/2014 10:12:57 AM
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| CliffWarren |
Pocatello (cliffwarren@yahoo.com)
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It goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway, compost and manure are not the same thing. Compost is excellent, manure can be detrimental. Compost is difficult and time consuming to make, so too often we take shortcuts and pay the price.
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3/12/2014 10:22:04 AM
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| Smallmouth |
Upa Creek, MO
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Yes Pbrat nature does deal with Oak leaves but it also takes a couple seasons to fully break them down. We are trying to accelerate the process so nitrogen is available not held up. Thin Maple are much easier to shred and breakdown over a winter. My dad was a wildlife biologist and as a kid we raised lots of animals, oak leaves composed of 90% of the hibernation piles we'd build for the reps to over winter. They can be used, buts its just more work and risk.
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3/12/2014 10:51:27 AM
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| WiZZy |
Little-TON - Colorado
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Your a brave man CoJoe... to use that horse of course...The Horse will not be with me....
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3/12/2014 11:20:55 AM
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| Farmer Ben |
Hinckley MN
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squatch manure? doesn't all manure go "squatch" when you step in it?
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3/12/2014 11:34:29 AM
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| WAIT TIL NEXT YEAR |
So. Maine
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bs
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3/12/2014 10:18:15 PM
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| Richard |
Minnesota
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None better than the elusive Sasquatch droppings!
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3/12/2014 11:00:20 PM
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