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yardman

Mnt.pleasant ,tennessee

Been studing up on it more.&gona try to focus on it.so the good stuff in the does what its supposed to.
I wana try to keep conditions right as much light as possible like a tomato plant keep the vines sepperate so leaves arnt shading each other.
Put carbon dioxide makers round plants out of sugar& yeast.& probli the reason behind talking to plants you blow your carbons on it.
Then algae for chloryphyll spray&put in dirt.
Then use plastic over ground to control water to keep from saturating&help up the ground temp to get the microbes going good. So during respiration it pulls good stuff.
Seems from studing its more important than what you put in the ground.
sure i missspelt stuff but thats what iv been pondering last week or so.



then algae for chloryphyll

8/16/2013 11:28:04 AM

pg3

Lodi, California

i do not quite understand your question but here is my analisis on how photosynthisis works. I like to think there are 4 controles with photosynthisis. The first one, carbon, which is conveerted into organic compounds, interreacts with hydrogen, which comes from the water you use on the plant. After the plant seperates the hydrogen from the oxygen the plant releases the waste (oxygen) into the air. the 3rd controle, fertilizers, help with the functions of the plant. N helps with the transfer of energy and the reproduction of cells, while P helps the plant turn solar energy into chemical energy. The last controle, light, is what drives the whole process of photosynthisis. The light is converted into chemical energy, ATP and NADPH. These chemicals act as a rechargable battery that is charged and discharged by the sun, powering the process of photosynthisis.

8/16/2013 1:45:18 PM

Punk'nLvr

Niagara Falls,NY

I don't know why people waste so much time with all this high tech, scientific stuff, studying the plant on an atomic plane, mumble-jumble. Use a soil test to get your soil right. Use a tissue test to check the plant's needs. Keep it fed, watered and weeded. Use a good seed stock and grow a big pumpkin. Should be a fun thing, not staying up nights with an electron microscope trying to find out which came fist the pumpkin or the seed!

8/16/2013 2:10:14 PM

yardman

Mnt.pleasant ,tennessee

Ashton its more of a discussion topic.on how to inhance the growth.i understand the process of it thanks for input tho.
Punkluvr not trying to be Like that .but this is how the good LORD made things to work.few simple all natural stuff God put here to increase to if were willing to figure it out.doing tissue&soil test is as sceintific on plants as you get.cause all that has to do with the cells.
Plants dont release much of the bad it uptake siften threw the minerals that the hole point of getn dirt right.thanks for your opinion tho

8/16/2013 2:54:03 PM

Orangeneck (Team HAMMER)

Eastern Pennsylvania

"I don't know why people waste so much time with all this high tech, scientific stuff, studying the plant on an atomic plane, mumble-jumble. Use a soil test to get your soil right. Use a tissue test to check the plant's needs."

First off, those must be the two most contradictory back to back sentences I've seen in a while. What is wrong with the desire to understand plant physiology? Why do you think we know how to interpret a soil test?

Do you realize you're talking to a teenager who managed to grow a 800+ lb pumpkin this year? Are you suggesting that he should not strive to understand why and how things work? Thinking like that is why the US is no longer dominating advancements in technology. I suppose my Biology degree is a waste afterall... should have studied basket weaving.

Sorry to come down on you, but people who want to learn should be encouraged, not joked at.

8/16/2013 2:58:41 PM

pg3

Lodi, California

haha, i agree O.N. I contribute pumpkin growing to getting 600 points out of 600 on the california state standard test (which is pretty much the SAT of 3-8th grade

8/16/2013 3:06:42 PM

pg3

Lodi, California

oh, it ment to say it was the test on sciences

8/16/2013 3:07:14 PM

yardman

Mnt.pleasant ,tennessee

That was contradictory.but also get were punknluvr coming from that there is some dullness in being scientific &serius all the time.but nothing wrong with being goofy on the outside&smart on the inside.

8/16/2013 3:45:53 PM

yardman

Mnt.pleasant ,tennessee

But back on topic anybody do stuff to up the photo.which is what creates the cells to form the plant

8/16/2013 6:55:52 PM

Smallmouth

Upa Creek, MO

"waste so much time with all this high tech, scientific stuff"... "Use a soil test"... lol, who do you think does the soil test, and accountant?



8/16/2013 7:38:19 PM

pg3

Lodi, California

I spray molasses to up the carbon, along with calcarb bi monthly. Also I'm going to add about 3-4" of shredded leaves with molasses to the soil for next year to increase the carbon. You have got to love the carbon, it is great for feeding the microbes and it makes up the dry mass of the entire plant. I have heard the Wallaces talk about carbon in one of their vids so please add on to whatever I have missed Pap.

8/16/2013 9:22:03 PM

Punk'nLvr

Niagara Falls,NY

Sorry you guys missed the point, was not making a joke on anyone. Yes,young people should expand their knowledge of things. I experiment with things and look up stuff on plants and growing methods, but some years I just grow to have fun and not worry to much about it. I like to take a stick and poke at a bee's nest and see what happens, just like I did here. Kick you feet up and take a pill!

8/16/2013 10:35:32 PM

yardman

Mnt.pleasant ,tennessee

Luke lol but yet sounds like a response that wich is joked at is from a fabricated grower.a person sees a giant pumpkin.wants one .buys a package does test.all the smarts simplyfied.to were a seed just needs to be put.a bird cud shat it out at a1000 '&it do good with that spot.just like fast food allot behind it but just put it in your belly all the consumer gota do.conveinence is the dumbing of americans.theres folks who right the books&those who just read.

8/16/2013 10:49:27 PM

yardman

Mnt.pleasant ,tennessee

Ashton i agree with leaves breaking down is great carbon out put..lot of effort hauling&raking myself,which roots do pull carbon out as they pump.but leaves are the main source of carbon.there filters you mite say.cause of stamata air vents bassically.carbon dioxide is a Low % of oxygen. Rust bubbles,fermintation&breathing is all natural. Pop pop pop pop look at them bubbles go.
I actully got a thing i rigged up that usese a fish tank airrator to pump carbon out of reactor chaimbor into dirt.just a try need to install

8/16/2013 11:19:09 PM

Engel's Great Pumpkins and Carvings

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

Why in the world would you pump carbon dioxide into the soil....you want to aerate the soil...increase oxygen content not reduce it...create a healthy environment for the microbes..The good thing about the increase root mass with Mykos is they also speed up the conversion of carbon into usable nutrients..

Now increase the carbon dioxide on the leaves surface yes...not in the root base

8/17/2013 12:16:54 AM

pg3

Lodi, California

I agree with linus. C02 will do absoulutely no good in the soil. C02 is extracted from the air and converted into sugur by the leaves. Oviously the roots don't have stomata and they cannot take in c02. Carbon would have to be in its solid form so the roots could actually dig into it.

8/17/2013 2:08:15 AM

pg3

Lodi, California

Also, you can only push the carbon so much before you end up with too little of the other ingredients. I am really big on the mycorrhizae as to increase the uptake of carbon, hydrogen (from water) and the overall nutrients so that I can get the most out of my plants. Also, don't think C0s is something to play around with! For the plants sake anything more than dounle the normal amount of co2 you would normally find in the air is harmful to plants, and much mote that 10000 ppm (which is barley anything!) Has been known to cause serious head aches and even can even knock out the average human. Be careful!

8/17/2013 2:16:31 AM

pg3

Lodi, California

Sorry about the typos, this phone is really hard on me.

8/17/2013 2:17:45 AM

yardman

Mnt.pleasant ,tennessee

This is why i wanted to have this conversation.to be told im right or wrong.well the reason behind me wanting to pump carbon in to soil.cause dont the roots takes in some carbons from water &areation.isnt oxegen needed just so the plant can take the carbon dioxide out of it.water&oxegen are just the carriers of carbon plants have to sift that out.so i figured id try uping the carbon dioxide in the dirt also.

8/17/2013 8:49:08 AM

yardman

Mnt.pleasant ,tennessee

I have been reading what said& googlin mycorr.do want to try some.iv read it comes from fungi.is there a natural way to get it.i thought i read on here one time mention of mushroom contain myco from the sporrres on them.my phones difficult to type to.

8/17/2013 9:18:06 AM

pg3

Lodi, California

First of all, you want there to be oxygen in the soil so that arobic (mostly good bacteria) bacteria can form. Without oxygen you will get anerobic (excuse my spelling) like mold and other bad things. You have to understand that c02 is NOT water soluble and that it cannot be taken up by the roots. All you will get from pumping in co2 is mold and bad bacteria. Shredded leaves on the other hand, are in the organic form, meaning they can decompose into a form that can be taken in by the roots.

8/17/2013 12:27:32 PM

Dandytown

Nottingham, UK

not that its important to the topic but CO2 does happen to be water soluble and there is evidence to show that isotopic CO2 has been taken up through roots of tomato plants etc etc.

8/17/2013 5:59:18 PM

yardman

Mnt.pleasant ,tennessee

Was thinking it was soluble dandy stuff i read says it is.plus isnt that selsin water& carboted water that goes in soda.cant remeber were i read it but think i read the same bout carbon uptake threw roots cant find it again.

8/17/2013 6:40:42 PM

Engel's Great Pumpkins and Carvings

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

There is a difference between carbon and carbon dioxide...sort of like the difference oxygen and dihydrogen monoxide

8/17/2013 7:15:14 PM

Bubba Presley

Muddy Waters

Keep up the good work Ashton!

8/17/2013 9:05:06 PM

pg3

Lodi, California

I have looked this up. I haven't seen any real results from this and I wouldn't do it. Also, there is a difference between water and moist soil. I would stick to molasses, leaves and cal carb. Carbonic acid (co2 disolved in water) isn't necessarily taken up by the roots just because it contains carbon. I would really suggest watering molasses into the soil if you really want to get the plant to take up carbon by the roots right this minute.

8/17/2013 9:17:27 PM

pg3

Lodi, California

Oh, also, co2 must be pressuruzed to be solubke in water. Unless your growing in a pressurized can there is no way co2 can be solubke in water. Case closed.

8/17/2013 9:43:34 PM

Cornhusk

Gays Mills, Wisconsin

Knotweed extract activates more
than 100 genes, causing physiological
changes in the treated plant,
including greener leaves due to
increased concentration of chlorophyll,
increased photosynthesis,
increased flowering, changes in
fatty acid concentrations, and a
slowing of plant senescense (Herger
and Klingauf 1990; Karavaev et al.

8/18/2013 8:40:26 AM

yardman

Mnt.pleasant ,tennessee

Went fishing knotweed huh ill look it up

8/18/2013 9:15:10 PM

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